tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3752793.post1632686340362007030..comments2023-05-07T07:41:56.700-05:00Comments on Safe Haven: Begging The QuestionJasonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05095369621205684858noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3752793.post-43856507094269161972014-10-28T22:44:19.265-05:002014-10-28T22:44:19.265-05:001) You can find a historian to say anything; that&...1) You can find a historian to say anything; that's not material to the question. Christian faith is not subject to the vagaries of human opinion. 2) The fact that non-Catholics do not accept the logical implications of their own premises does not mean those implications aren't real. Newman said, "Protestantism, viewed in its more Catholic aspect, is doctrine without active principle; viewed in its heretical, it is active principle without doctrine. Many of its speakers, for instance, use eloquent and glowing language about the Church and its characteristics: some of them do not realize what they say, but use high words and general statements about 'the faith,' and 'primitive truth,' and 'schism,' and 'heresy,' to which they attach no definite meaning; while others speak of 'unity,' 'universality,' and 'Catholicity,' and use the words in their own sense and for their own ideas." (Essay on Development, 182)<br />Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05095369621205684858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3752793.post-5118828293200350912014-10-28T18:13:39.399-05:002014-10-28T18:13:39.399-05:00Two problems: (1) good historical research disagre...Two problems: (1) good historical research disagrees with your assertion about the Early Church and (2) I don't know any normal Protestant theologian who accepts either the Spirit is confused or those who disagree with me are wrong. That's simply not the way it works.Timothy R. Butlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07223079694675881783noreply@blogger.com