And you're screwing people up teaching them otherwise. If human nature were fundamentally bad, Jesus could not be our Savior. He would have assumed a bad nature.
You have over-stated the effect of the Fall, mostly to serve Luther and Calvin's highly tendentious claims about salvation (which kind of beg the question anyway).
Which is not to say we're not sinners, by the way. But even a good human nature completely unaffected by the Fall would need grace to reach friendship with God, a point shockingly missed by those closet Pelagians you are following.
You have over-stated the effect of the Fall, mostly to serve Luther and Calvin's highly tendentious claims about salvation (which kind of beg the question anyway).
Which is not to say we're not sinners, by the way. But even a good human nature completely unaffected by the Fall would need grace to reach friendship with God, a point shockingly missed by those closet Pelagians you are following.
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